Ravitch: Interesting that top-performing and most equitable nations in world do not have vouchers or charters. Fuller: I don't live in other nations I live here & I believe we need choice for poor families. If this is Diane u used to believe it too. Exchange between Diane Ravitch and Howard Fuller, via Whitney Tilson. See full Tilson clip below. Fuller: Diane, how long has the traditional system been failing kids? Would u suggest it is now time to end it? Ravitch: All kids regardless of race, income, etc should get a good education but poverty is a huge burden for children.